On skinny stationary subsets of

Publisher: Cambridge University Press

E-ISSN: 1943-5886|78|2|667-680

ISSN: 0022-4812

Source: The Journal of Symbolic Logic, Vol.78, Iss.2, 2013-06, pp. : 667-680

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Abstract

We introduce the notion of skinniness for subsets of and its variants, namely skinnier and skinniest. We show that under some cardinal arithmetical assumptions, precipitousness or 2 λ -saturation of NS κλ X, where NS κλ denotes the non-stationary ideal over , implies the existence of a skinny stationary subset of X. We also show that if λ is a singular cardinal, then there is no skinnier stationary subset of . Furthermore, if λ is a strong limit singular cardinal, there is no skinny stationary subset of . Combining these results, we show that if λ is a strong limit singular cardinal, then NS κλ X can satisfy neither precipitousness nor 2 λ -saturation for every stationary X. We also indicate that , where , is equivalent to the existence of a skinnier (or skinniest) stationary subset of under some cardinal arithmetical hypotheses.